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    345. 12 Ways the Planet Could Truly Be Saved | Bjørn Lomborg

    By focusing on improving seeds, even with poor market access and corruption, agriculture can be improved and contribute to industrialization. Specialization is crucial for success.

    enApril 03, 2023

    About this Episode

    Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Bjørn Lomborg go through each of the “doable dozen,” a series of issues that cost relatively little to solve, and yet doing so would yield exponential returns for developing countries and their impoverished citizens.

     

    Bjørn Lomborg is a Danish author, having written numerous books on climate change such as “False Alarm,” “The Skeptical Environmentalist,” and “How to Spend $75 Billion to Make the World a Better Place.” He is the president of the think tank Copenhagen Consensus Center which focuses on doing the most good for the most people, with increasingly limited budgets. Bjørn's newest book, "Best Things First," is set to release soon, so check out the link below to reserve your copy!

     

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    🔑 Key Takeaways

    • Focusing on the most important goals first is crucial to delivering on promises made by international enterprises, and economists like Lomborg are working on identifying the smartest solutions with the highest return on investment.
    • Analyzing policy costs and benefits to identify efficient solutions can help address more issues with limited resources. Lomborg and his team offer a proven menu of policies to prioritize efficient solutions and benefit the most people.
    • The Copenhagen Consensus Center suggests 12 cost-effective projects to help the most vulnerable people in low and low-middle-income countries. Investing in these projects can have a significant impact on alleviating absolute poverty.
    • By investing just a small fraction of development aid in cost-effective projects, we could save millions of lives and generate trillions of dollars in economic benefits. Poverty can be eradicated, and we have the resources to improve global living standards sustainably.
    • To live sustainably and avoid the need for five earths of resources, a shift towards clean power sources is necessary. Addressing poverty and promoting good living conditions is key to caring for the planet's wellbeing.
    • Thanks to innovation, we can access more resources at cheaper prices with less environmental impact. Lifting people out of poverty is the key to addressing environmental issues and ensuring prosperity for all.
    • Encouraging hospital births and hand-washing can improve maternal and newborn health, while addressing global poverty can help the planet. These issues can be tackled affordably through sustainable development goals.
    • Implementing basic emergency obstetric and newborn care and family planning measures, such as using hand pumps and masks, in lower-income countries could save billions annually and prevent unnecessary deaths. Policymakers must prioritize prevention to make this possible.
    • Investing $1 in maternal health in developing countries saves 161,000 women and 1.2 million children every year, prevents further health problems, and creates a social good of $87 for every dollar spent. More awareness is needed to make this approach globally accessible.
    • Providing emergency care to pregnant women, addressing respiratory issues, managing eclampsia and pre-eclampsia, and practicing kangaroo care can help improve infant mortality rates. Investing in agricultural productivity is a more sustainable solution to world hunger than short-term food aid.
    • By focusing on improving seeds, even with poor market access and corruption, agriculture can be improved and contribute to industrialization. Specialization is crucial for success.
    • Increasing agricultural output through better farming practices can reduce malnutrition, hunger, poverty, and population growth. Investing in agricultural research can sustainably feed 9 billion people and reduce the number of hungry people by 133 million while lowering food prices in urban areas.
    • Investing in agricultural research can generate $33 for every $1 invested, save 133 million people from hunger, and improve the lives of the world's poorest. It is necessary to raise awareness and prioritize this issue globally.
    • The right vitamins and nutrients during pregnancy and the first two years of a child's life can lead to proper brain development and long-term effects on productivity and cognitive ability. Educating mothers on proper feeding and access to supplements is a cost-effective solution.
    • Educating women on child nutrition and implementing e-procurement can have significant positive impact while minimizing negative consequences and corruption potential.
    • E-procurement systems similar to eBay can effectively reduce corruption and provide better quality products at lower prices. Improving education is also crucial in developing countries where many kids learn almost nothing, and cannot make sentences.
    • Instead of building more schools or increasing teacher pay, improving teacher training through structured lesson plans and feedback can improve literacy and comprehension skills in children in poor countries at a cost of only $9 per child per year.
    • With the right teaching and technology, students from disadvantaged backgrounds can develop literacy skills in just three months. Prioritizing student learning outcomes should be the focus, even if it means giving up some teacher autonomy.
    • Using tablets for just one hour a day in developing countries can boost learning and provide a cost-effective solution. It also strengthens neural circuits and creates a positive learning experience. Adding teacher oversight increases potential for success.
    • Investing in early childhood education and eradicating malaria can have long-term productivity benefits. Spending money on early childhood education can lead to higher salaries and future worth, and eradicating malaria requires a comprehensive solution that addresses multiple factors.
    • Distributing more mosquito nets can save hundreds of thousands of lives in sub-Saharan Africa by reducing the spread of malaria. It may cost $1.1 billion but can have a return of $48 for every dollar spent.
    • Chronic diseases are the main cause of death globally due to improved healthcare leading to longer lifespans. Preventing chronic diseases can be achieved through cost-effective interventions such as improving heart failure treatment and increasing access to blood pressure medication. Reducing consumption of harmful substances may also significantly improve health outcomes. Donations can potentially fund these interventions, making reducing chronic diseases a valuable area to invest in for bettering overall health outcomes worldwide.
    • Higher taxes and regulations on tobacco and alcohol have spillover effects on younger generations and the cost of these implementations is minimal compared to their benefits. Proper land ownership and security is also crucial for economic development in developing countries.
    • Establishing a system of effective land registration and surveys in developing countries is crucial as it can lead to benefits like increased productivity in agriculture, higher property value, and reduced anxiety. Secure land ownership encourages people to take risks that can lead to a better life.
    • Trade allows individuals and companies to focus on their strengths and produce goods and services more efficiently. It also opens up opportunities for diverse niches in the market, allowing people of all skill levels to participate and contribute to society.
    • Free trade can bring benefits to the world in the long run but may cause short-term losses for some industries in richer countries. It is essential to consider both the positive and negative effects of free trade to create a better overall prosperity.
    • Free trade benefits poorer countries by a significant margin, but can negatively affect the poorest strata in developed nations. Retraining and a positive attitude towards lateral job transitions can mitigate these effects, and increased trade can benefit all sectors of society.
    • Skilled migration can lead to economic benefits for both sending and receiving countries, but it needs to be carefully managed to avoid brain drain and ensure the skills being prioritized bring the greatest financial return.
    • Investing in education and local businesses can improve productivity of poor people moving to rich countries, while attention and resources must be given to addressing tuberculosis, which killed more people than COVID-19 in 2020 and 2021.
    • Tuberculosis is a widespread disease with a high mortality rate, exacerbated by a lack of diagnosis and treatment in marginalized areas. Encouraging compliance with medication through incentives can aid in eradication efforts, which can have a significant social and economic impact.
    • Vaccinations have proven to be highly effective in eradicating fatal diseases like smallpox, and investing in childhood vaccinations can save lives while also resulting in substantial economic benefits.
    • Both experts agree that climate change is being excessively portrayed in the media, but also understand the moral duty to address it. However, they have different opinions on the effectiveness and cost of proposed solutions.
    • It's important to focus on multiple issues such as corruption, poverty, and world peace, not just climate change. Media's focus on negative news can skew our perception, and it's vital to promote incremental progress to make informed decisions for a better world.
    • By investing in specific programs to tackle issues such as malaria, tuberculosis, and hunger, significant progress can be made towards solving global issues. Rewarding individuals who make contributions can also have a positive impact.
    • Prioritizing effective solutions can make a significant difference in healthcare, education, climate change, and biodiversity. By focusing on achievable goals and investing in cost-effective solutions, we can create a better world.
    • Developing countries deserve the opportunity to improve their economy without being unfairly hindered by environmental concerns. By focusing on poverty reduction strategies that increase resilience, we can effectively combat climate change and promote progress.

    📝 Podcast Summary

    Prioritizing Sustainable Development Goals

    Jordan Peterson and Bjorn Lomborg discuss the chaotic mess of jumbled priorities in international enterprises, specifically with regards to the sustainable development goals. The world has made 169 different targets, making promises to fix a multitude of problems, ranging from climate change to world peace to education, poverty, and corruption. However, we are not delivering on these promises. Lomborg and his team of economists have spent nearly two decades determining how to prioritize spending prioritization on the national and international front, identifying the smartest solutions that provide the most good for the least amount of money in the shortest period of time with the highest return. The emphasis is on rank ordering priorities to identify and focus on the most important goals first.

    Prioritizing Efficient Policies with Bjørn Lomborg and Jordan Peterson

    Bjørn Lomborg and Jordan Peterson discuss the importance of prioritizing efficient policies. Politicians often make promises without considering the efficiency of their decisions because they have limited resources. Economists can help by analyzing the cost and benefits of policies to identify what works efficiently at low cost with high benefits. Lomborg and his team provide a menu of policies that have been proven to work and benefit the most people. Efficiency is important because resources are not infinite, and prioritizing efficient policies can help address more issues. Utilitarianism suggests doing what you can in the most efficient way possible, which helps to address more problems.

    12 Prioritized Projects to Alleviate Absolute Poverty.

    The Copenhagen Consensus Center, led by Bjorn Lomborg, offers 12 suggested projects to alleviate absolute poverty around the world. These projects have been carefully evaluated and prioritize efficiency, cost-effectiveness, and potential social benefit. The threshold for social benefit has been set to $15 for every dollar spent. This approach focuses on low and low-middle-income countries, where cost-effective investments can help the most vulnerable people. While many global problems such as climate change and plastic pollution require attention, investing in the suggested projects will have the largest impact on those in the most desperate need.

    Bjørn Lomborg on Investing in Low-Cost Solutions to Improve Global Health and Economic Benefits

    Bjørn Lomborg, in his discussion with Jordan Peterson, suggests that investing in cost-effective projects could significantly improve global health outcomes and generate economic benefits. The 12 solutions recommended would cost approximately $35 billion per year, a small fraction of the $175 billion spent on development aid annually. By investing in these projects, approximately 4.2 million lives could be saved every year, which translates to avoiding 8% of all global deaths. In addition, economic benefits worth $1.1 trillion could be generated. Lomborg also suggests that the argument that resources are finite and the planet is overpopulated is flawed, as history has shown that poverty can be eradicated, and we have the resources to sustainably improve global living standards.

    The Real Cost of Living Like Americans

    Living like Americans would require five earths of resources, particularly forest, which is an inefficient way to get rid of CO2. Instead, wind turbines, solar panels, and clean power plants are a more intelligent approach. While there are problems with having 10 billion people, having 10 billion rich people means we can deal with most of these issues, including pollution. Poverty is the real pollution problem as poor people cut down forests to grow food, suffer from indoor air pollution, and have inefficient production. We need to get people out of poverty for them to care about the planet's wellbeing. Providing people with enough material security for their children's future and good living conditions is not about absurd consumption but having a good, meaningful life. Natural resources are a specious notion because human ingenuity and governance structures play an essential role in abundance. Abundance depends on individual moral integrity and governance structures.

    Natural resources and the misconception of a zero-sum game

    The zero sum presumption in natural resource discourse is incorrect. Innovation has allowed us to access more resources at cheaper prices and with less environmental impact. This is true for pretty much all resources, and the evidence for this is seen in the famous bet between Paul Ehrlich and Julian Simon, where Simon won the bet that by the year 2000, commodities would be less expensive, not more. As governance structures have improved and population has increased, everyone is far better off. To address environmental issues, it is important to lift people out of poverty and put them on a path to prosperity.

    12 Ways to Make a Big Positive Impact on a Small Budget

    A team of economists have identified 12 areas where the global community can make a significant positive impact with minimal costs. One such area is maternal and newborn health, where every year 300,000 mothers and 2.4 million children die. Simple measures such as encouraging more mothers to give birth in hospitals and ensuring doctors wash their hands could make a big difference. Improving global poverty by ameliorating absolute poverty can also help the planet, according to Jordan Peterson and the research reviewed in this discussion. It is possible to address these issues at a reasonable cost, and the global community should focus on sustainable development goals to do so.

    Basic Emergency Care and Family Planning Could Save Lives in Lower-Income Countries

    Basic emergency obstetric and newborn care (Bemonc) and family planning are recommended by the World Health Organization to save lives of both mothers and children in lower-income countries. Bemonc includes simple, low-cost interventions such as a hand pump and mask to help newborns breathe. However, the lack of prioritization by policymakers, especially regarding prevention, has hindered the implementation of these measures. It is crucial to address these issues as Bemonc and family planning could save an estimated 4.9 billion dollars annually and prevent needless deaths.

    The Benefits of Investing in Maternal Health in Developing Countries

    Investing $1 in improving maternal health in developing countries could save the lives of 161,000 women and 1.2 million children every year while also preventing the terrible cascade of problems that result from their deaths. The cost of this investment would be around $2.8 billion, but the social good returned would be $87 for every dollar spent. Despite the low cost and potential for high impact, few countries have taken up the challenge of improving maternal health in this way. By setting an agenda and raising awareness of the benefits, this approach could make a significant positive impact on the world.

    12 Ways to Make the World a Better Place

    According to Bjørn Lomborg, there are 12 things we can do to make the world a better place, and one of them is to provide emergency care to pregnant women and new infants. This includes providing technology to address respiratory issues, medication to manage eclampsia and pre-eclampsia, and the practice of kangaroo care. Another two of the 12 things we can do are related to nutrition, as there are still 769 million people who are hungry in the world today. However, there are two different approaches to solving this problem: the short-term approach, which is to supply food aid, and the long-term approach, which is to invest in agricultural productivity.

    The importance of improving seeds for agriculture

    In order to improve agriculture and produce more food, it is important to focus on making seeds better. This was the focus of the first Green Revolution, which led to a significant increase in food production and saved many lives. By improving the seeds, even if access to markets and irrigation is poor or there is corruption, more food can be grown. While other methods such as irrigation and education can also improve agriculture, they are often expensive or hard to implement. Specialization and having few people working on farms while others work on other productive tasks has been key to the success of industrialized societies.

    The Impact of Investing in Agricultural Research

    Investing more money into agricultural research can lead to more efficient farming methods and increased agricultural output. This, in turn, can lead to reduced malnutrition, hunger and poverty. Providing opportunities for education and business can lead to a decrease in population growth as a result of long-term security for women. Reasonable estimates suggest that we can sustain 9 billion people on Earth indefinitely if we invest in better farming practices. Investing in agricultural research can reduce the number of people who are hungry on the planet by around 133 million people. Investing in agricultural research can also lead to the production of more food and reduce food prices in cities.

    Agricultural Research as a Solution to Alleviate Global Poverty

    In this discussion between Bjørn Lomborg and Jordan Peterson, they highlight the effectiveness of investing in agricultural research to help alleviate global poverty. For just 75 cents a year, improving seed quality and increasing crop yields can produce benefits for farmers, producers, and city dwellers alike, generating $33 back for every $1 invested. This investment can save 133 million people from hunger and significantly improve the lives of the world's poorest. However, there is a lack of awareness and marketing around the benefits of agricultural research, which needs to be addressed to gain support and prioritize this important issue on a global scale. Lomborg's upcoming book, "Best Things First," highlights 12 tangible ideas to improve the world, and emphasizes the importance of focusing on this issue.

    The Importance of Nutrition in a Child's First Thousand Days

    The most important time for nutrition is the first thousand days of a child's life, from the nine months in the womb to the first two years after birth. Giving pregnant mothers and children access to the right vitamins and nutrients can prevent low birth weight and lead to proper brain development, which can have long-term effects on productivity and cognitive ability. Handing out food for free is a flawed approach due to corruption and negative feedback for farmers. Instead, educating mothers on proper feeding and providing access to vitamin-rich supplements can be a cost-effective solution. Improving nutrition during the first thousand days can have a positive impact on both productivity and overall well-being.

    The most effective and economical solutions for a sustainable future

    Shorter people have a smaller carbon footprint, and educating women on child nutrition results in benefits of about 35 billion a year while only costing about 1.4 billion. The interventions that produce the fewest cascading negative consequences are the most effective, and they usually cost fairly little with very little corruption potential. Distributing food directly to the poor often leads to corruption and inefficiency, so the most effective solution is to educate women on proper child nutrition and let them decide how to allot their resources. E-procurement, or electronic procurement, is a way to dramatically reduce corruption in large-scale government purchasing.

    Using E-Procurement Systems to Combat Corruption in Developing Countries and Improving Education for Children

    In developing countries, it's important to combat corruption in government procurement, especially when allocating resources for big purchases. One way to achieve this is by putting bids up on an e-procurement system, similar to eBay, where businesses can bid on contracts. This reduces corruption, results in high-quality goods, and lowers prices. For example, Bangladesh and Ukraine have implemented this successfully, resulting in more significant budgets for poor countries. Moreover, it's crucial to not only get kids into schools but also to teach them effectively. Unfortunately, many kids worldwide learn almost nothing, and a large part of primary students cannot even string words together to make a sentence.

    Improving Education in Poor Countries: A Cost-Effective Solution

    In poor countries, many children struggle with basic literacy and comprehension skills. While building more schools or increasing teacher pay may seem like solutions, they have proven to be ineffective. Instead, focusing on improving teacher training through structured lesson plans and feedback has been shown to be a cost-effective solution. This approach costs about $9 per child per year, significantly less than the average expenditure on education. By improving the quality of education, children in poor countries can overcome barriers to learning and achieve greater success in their education.

    Improving student learning through behavioral teaching methods and technology

    Investing in behavioral teaching methods and training teachers can lead to significant improvements in student learning, particularly in regions where students come from disadvantaged backgrounds. With structured lessons that are easy for parents to follow, children can develop word recognition literacy and comprehend phrases and sentences in just three months. Teaching at the right level can also be effective, even if for just one hour a day. The use of technology, such as tablets, can offer an alternative solution to alleviate the pressure on teachers and provide personalized education to students. While there may be some reluctance from teachers to give up their autonomy, the focus should remain on the positive impact on student learning outcomes.

    Tablets for Education in Developing Countries

    By using tablets to teach children in developing countries for just one hour a day, we can place them in the zone of proximal development, or the incremental edge of learning, resulting in a dopamine kick and strengthening of neural circuits associated with positive emotion. This costs $31 and provides almost three years of learning for every one year in school, meaning that if a child spends only one hour a day using a tablet, they will learn almost everything they would learn in seven hours of traditional schooling, making this a more effective and cost-efficient solution. By adding teacher oversight, the potential for learning is even greater.

    Investing in Early Childhood Education and Eradicating Malaria Can Lead to Long-term Productivity Benefits.

    Investing in early childhood education could result in $65 of productivity benefits for every dollar spent. In fact, spending around $9.8 billion per year over the next decade on early childhood education could result in long-term productivity benefits for these children, leading to higher salaries and future worth. Additionally, eradicating malaria has been possible due to a combination of factors such as getting rich, better medication, and reducing breeding grounds for mosquitoes. However, getting rid of malaria is not just about medication - the type of mosquito and the presence of livestock also play a crucial role, which is why eradicating malaria requires a comprehensive solution.

    The Impact of Insecticide-Treated Mosquito Nets on Malaria

    Malaria is a major health issue in sub-Saharan Africa, with 95% of cases and 600,000 deaths annually. One solution is the distribution of insecticide-treated mosquito nets, which both physically block mosquitoes and kill them with pesticide. Increasing distribution of these nets by just 10% could lead to a reduction of half of malaria cases by 2030, saving about 200,000 lives each year. The cost of increasing distribution would be about $1.1 billion, but the benefits would be about $10 billion, which includes savings in healthcare and productivity costs. Implementing this solution could bring an amazing return of $48 for every dollar spent.

    Preventing Chronic Diseases: Cost-Effective Interventions and Investment Opportunities

    Chronic diseases, such as heart disease and cancer, are now the leading causes of death globally due to improvements in healthcare leading to longer lifespans. Bjorn Lomborg suggests that preventing chronic diseases is a key area for investment. Two cost-effective interventions are improving heart failure treatment with diuretics and increasing access to blood pressure medication through nurse-led care. Additionally, reducing consumption of tobacco, alcohol, trans fat, and salt could significantly improve health outcomes through taxes or other interventions. Donations could potentially fund these interventions, and reducing chronic diseases is a valuable area to focus on to improve overall health outcomes globally.

    Implementing tobacco tax and alcohol regulation can save lives and reduce negative impacts.

    A tobacco tax and higher regulation of alcohol can generate significant benefits in terms of saving lives and reducing negative impacts such as violence and disease. The cost of implementing these measures is negligible compared to the benefits, including reduced smoking rates and spillover effects on younger generations. Additionally, land ownership and security is crucial to economic development in developing countries, as unclear titles hinder the ability to raise mortgages and improve living conditions. Proper paperwork and transfer of titles is key to ensuring undisputed sovereignty over territory and improving economic stability.

    The Importance of Secure Land Ownership in Developing Countries

    In developing countries, lack of secure land ownership leads to a lot of dead capital that the poor cannot use as collateral for loans to start their businesses. This is because people are not motivated to improve the property they do not own or feel insecure about being evicted. Therefore, establishing a system of effective registration and surveys is crucial. Although it may be costly, benefits include 15% higher productivity in agriculture, increased property value, and reduced anxiety due to a greater feeling of security. Secure land ownership encourages people to take risks that can lead to a better life.

    The Benefits of Trade for a More Prosperous Society

    Trade has allowed individuals, nations, and companies to specialize in what they do best, leading to increased productivity and a more prosperous society. This is why trade is considered by many economists to be a "really, really good" thing. By trading amongst each other and focusing on our strengths, we are able to produce goods and services more efficiently and effectively. The benefits of trade extend beyond just economic prosperity as it also opens up opportunities for diverse niches in the market, allowing individuals of all skill levels to participate and contribute to society.

    The Pros and Cons of Free Trade: Impacts on Inequality and Import-Exposed Industries.

    In recent years, the world has seen a decrease in inequality due to poorer countries catching up with richer ones. However, simply focusing on reducing inequality does not always lead to positive outcomes. Making everyone poor is not a solution as it is not a desirable outcome. One way to improve overall prosperity is through increased trade, but this can have negative impacts on certain industries in richer countries. In order to fully understand the effects of free trade, it is important to consider both the benefits and costs, including the potential impact on import-exposed industries in richer countries. Overall, while free trade can bring significant benefits in the long run, there may be short to medium-term losses for some industries in richer countries.

    The Impact of Free Trade on Developed and Developing Countries

    Free trade has a significantly positive impact on the poorer countries of the world, with benefits outweighing the costs by 95 to 1. However, the poorest strata in the developed world bears the brunt of the negative effects of free trade. To address this problem, re-education and retraining opportunities must be provided to help displaced workers find new opportunities. Additionally, changing one's attitude towards lateral job transitions, as seen in a study conducted by Jordan Peterson, can help individuals raise themselves up the economic hierarchy instead of suffering from displacement. Increased trade can benefit both the poor and the rich sectors of society.

    The Pros and Cons of Skilled Migration

    Skilled migration, bringing in doctors and engineers, can be a beneficial way for countries to become richer. However, unrestricted movement of people may not be practical as it can create problems that may reduce support for the idea. A brain drain may occur in poor countries causing them to lose out, but skilled migrants tend to send remittances back to their countries that can be beneficial. Prioritizing skills required for migration should be based on nation to nation analysis because only doctors and engineers have such a great differential that it pays back in dollars. Overall, skilled migration can be positive for both the sending and receiving countries.

    Bjørn Lomborg and Jordan Peterson on the Benefits of Intelligent Immigration

    Bjørn Lomborg and Jordan Peterson discuss the benefits of more intelligent immigration, allowing the most in-demand productive people to move while generating benefits for the countries they leave behind and the ones they move to. They highlight a proposal to invest 2.8 billion to generate about 50 billion in benefits by improving the productivity of poor people moving to rich countries through better education and investing in local businesses. Lomborg raises concern over tuberculosis, a highly infectious disease that killed more than one billion people over the last 200 years, adding that it killed more people than COVID-19 in 2020 and 2021, indicating the need for more attention and resources towards addressing it.

    The Challenge of Tuberculosis: Detection, Treatment, and Eradication

    Tuberculosis is a major problem in many countries, with an estimated 11 million people contracting it each year and only six million being diagnosed. This leaves a large untreated reservoir, leading to approximately 45% of untreated people dying from the disease. Screening efforts need to be increased, particularly in marginalized areas like slums, prisons, and mining communities. Treatment is also a major factor, as it takes six months to fully rid the body of tuberculosis, making compliance difficult. Incentives like apps, support groups, and rewards can help encourage patients to remain compliant with their medication. By investing in tuberculosis detection and treatment, it is estimated that $46 of social good can be achieved for every dollar spent, ultimately saving 600,000 lives every year. Eradication of the disease would be an ideal goal, but it is a challenging feat.

    Importance of Vaccinations in Preventing Deadly Diseases and Saving Lives

    Vaccinations are one of the most effective ways to combat deadly diseases and have saved millions of lives. Smallpox was eradicated through vaccination, and other diseases like measles, pertussis, tetanus, and rotavirus can also be prevented through vaccination. Investing in childhood vaccinations can reduce the number of children and adults dying from preventable diseases and can result in economic benefits. Bjørn Lomborg suggests that an additional $35 billion could save 4.2 million lives every year and generate $1.1 trillion in economic benefits. Governments and individuals should consider investing in vaccination programs to make a significant impact at a low cost.

    Jordan Peterson and Bjørn Lomborg on Climate Change Hysteria and Effective Solutions

    Jordan Peterson believes that the climate change hysteria is a form of "religious striving" that is contaminated with malevolence. He believes that everyone feels a moral duty to share their privilege, but this is channeled into apocalyptic hysteria which hinders progress. However, he also sees why young people are attracted to this as they feel a sense of atonement for their privilege. Meanwhile, Bjørn Lomborg argues that the fear of climate change is so prominent in the media because it is being portrayed as something that could negatively impact you and your children. However, he believes that many of the solutions being proposed are ineffective and expensive, and that there are better ways to help people out.

    The Importance of Addressing Multiple Issues for a Better World

    The conversation between Bjørn Lomborg and Jordan Peterson highlights the importance of addressing multiple issues that affect our world, rather than just focusing on one. While climate change is a critical problem, it is not the only issue we face, and we must also pay attention to corruption, poverty, and world peace. The media's tendency to focus on negative, apocalyptic information can also skew our perception of the world, leading to a desire for unearned moral virtue. It is essential to provide people with information and stories that show incremental progress and can help us make informed decisions about how we want to make the world a better place. Lomborg's book, Best Things First, aims to do just that.

    Investing in Effective Solutions to Tackle Global Issues

    In a recent discussion, Bjørn Lomborg and Jordan Peterson talked about the potential for solving global issues such as malaria, tuberculosis, and hunger by investing in specific programs. Lomborg suggested that by investing $35 billion, significant progress could be made towards eradicating these issues. While some politicians may have counterproductive proposals, there are still ways for individuals to embrace effective solutions. Additionally, rewarding individuals who make significant contributions to solving these issues could create a positive impact. By understanding that these problems are serious but not apocalyptic, and by investing in effective programs, progress can be made towards solving global issues.

    The Cost-Effective Solutions for a Better World

    Bjørn Lomborg, a Danish author and commentator, suggests that if we want to be good people, we need to focus on doing the most effective things first. He proposes 12 cost-effective solutions that can help the world make significant progress in areas such as healthcare, education, climate change, and biodiversity. Lomborg points out that the UN has failed to keep up with the promises they've made, and that it's time we shift our attention to what is at hand. By spending 35 billion a year, we can do an incredible amount of good and make a real difference. This is something we can't afford to ignore.

    The Importance of Prioritizing Poverty Reduction in the Fight Against Climate Change

    It is unfair and unethical for developed nations to prevent developing countries from industrializing and improving their economy due to environmental concerns. This approach can keep poor countries in poverty and hinder their progress. Instead, we need to realize that climate change is a real issue but not an apocalyptic one. By focusing on poverty reduction, we can increase resilience, especially in areas that are most affected by natural disasters. We also need to prioritize cost-effective solutions that have maximum impact rather than pouring money into ineffective pet projects. In short, poverty reduction needs to come first in the fight against climate change.

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    440. Looking Back on the Campaign, and Forward for the Country | Vivek Ramaswamy

    Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with 2024 presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy to discuss the recent suspension of his campaign, how he fought the traditional media’s best advances against him, who he is endorsing now, and the American values he seeks to defend going forward.

     

    Vivek Ramaswamy is an entrepreneur, author, and political activist. Vivek has been making headlines since announcing his candidacy for the 2024 presidential election, running on a platform in part to dismantle the expansive and corrupt bureaucracy that has seeped into nearly all facets of American government. Prior to this, Ramaswamy was the founder and CEO of the biopharmaceutical company Roivant Sciences. Leaving in 2021, he published “Woke, Inc.: Inside Corporate America's Social Justice Scam.” In 2022, he co-founded Strive Asset Management with Anson Frericks, which focuses on an alternative to the now-pushed ESG investment framework. That same year Ramaswamy published “Nation of Victims: Identity Politics, the Death of Merit, and the Path Back to Excellence”

    and has since been deemed one of the “Intellectual Godfathers of the anti-woke movement.”

     

     

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    439. Microplastics, Global Greening, & the Dangers of Radical Alarmism | Dr. Patrick Moore

    439. Microplastics, Global Greening, & the Dangers of Radical Alarmism | Dr. Patrick Moore

    Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with industry consultant, science activist, and past president of Greenpeace Canada (1971 to 1986), Dr. Patrick Moore. They discuss his time in Greenpeace, the historic timeline of global ice ages and climate change, the clear lies being peddled to promote alarmism, and how the woke left manipulates science (and scientists) to promote a falsely perceived and politically incentivized future catastrophe.

     

    Dr. Patrick Moore has been a leader in the international environmental field for more than 45 years. He is a co-founder of Greenpeace and served for nine years as President of Greenpeace Canada and seven years as a Director of Greenpeace International. As the leader of many campaigns Dr. Moore was a driving force shaping policy and direction for 15 years while Greenpeace became the world's largest environmental activist organization.

     

    In recent years, Dr. Moore has been focused on the promotion of sustainability and consensus building among competing concerns. He was a member of the British Columbia government-appointed Round Table on the Environment and Economy from 1990 - 1994. In 1990, Dr. Moore founded and chaired the BC Carbon Project, a group that worked to develop a common understanding of climate change.

     

    In 2021 Dr. Moore published "Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom" exposing the fake news and fake science around 11 claims of disaster including climate change, coral reefs, polar bears, plastic, nuclear energy, and more.

     

     

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    “Fake Invisible Catastrophes And Threats of Doom” (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Fake-Invisible-Catastrophes-Threats-Doom-ebook/dp/B08T6FFY6S/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=fake+invisible+catastrophe&qid=1612915229&s=digital-text&sr=1-1

     

    438. Aboutness, Secular vs. Religious Ethics, & Plato’s Aviary | Dr. Daniel Dennett

    438. Aboutness, Secular vs. Religious Ethics, & Plato’s Aviary | Dr. Daniel Dennett

    Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with writer, philosopher, and cognitive scientist Dr. Daniel Dennett. They discuss the concepts of aboutness, intention, and the highest good as they relate to the religious and secular worlds, the establishment of trust and ethics outside of transcendent presupposition, and the loss of academic freedom at the misapprehension of postmodernism.

     

    Dr. Daniel Dennett is an American philosopher, writer, and cognitive scientist. He has published dozens of books, such as “Consciousness Explained" (1992), “Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life” (1996), and “Breaking the Spell: Religion as Natural Phenomena” (2007).

     

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    The Problem with Counterfeit People (Article on AI, the Atlantic) https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/05/problem-counterfeit-people/674075/

     

    Consciousness Explained (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Consciousness-Explained-Daniel-C-Dennett/dp/0316180661

     

    I’ve Been Thinking (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Ive-Been-Thinking-Daniel-Dennett/dp/0393868052

     

    Breaking the Spell: Religion as Natural Phenomena (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Spell-Religion-Natural-Phenomenon/dp/0143038338 

    437. The 2024 Presidency, Joe Biden’s Age, Gigantism, & Facing Reality | Dean Phillips

    437. The 2024 Presidency, Joe Biden’s Age, Gigantism, & Facing Reality | Dean Phillips

    Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with entrepreneur, U.S. representative, and 2024 presidential candidate Dean Phillips. They discuss his now-suspended presidential campaign, the monolithic opposition he faced getting platformed, the reality of President Joe Biden’s age, the core issues facing America right now, and the comparative pathologies of Republicans and Democrats respectively.

     

    Dean Phillips is an American businessman and congressman, serving as the U.S. representative of Minnesota’s 3rd District since 2019. Phillips has started and run several companies over the years (Such as Talenti Gelato) and served as CEO of his family's liquor business, Phillips Distilling Co, for 12 years (2000-2012). Phillips ran as the only Democrat against Joe Biden in the 2024 election. On March 6th, 2024, he suspended his campaign.

     

     

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    436. What Your Left Brain Won’t Tell Your Right Brain | Dr. Iain McGilchrist

    436. What Your Left Brain Won’t Tell Your Right Brain | Dr. Iain McGilchrist

    Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with psychiatrist, researcher, and philosopher Dr. Iain McGilchrist. They discuss right brain/left brain hemispheric specialization, the basis of delusion, “unknowing” as a necessary step toward wisdom, consciousness and the divine ground of being, and the imposition of mediocrity in the modern West.

     

    Dr. Iain McGilchrist is a psychiatrist, neuroscience researcher, philosopher and literary scholar. He is a Quondam Fellow of All Souls College, Oxford, an Associate Fellow of Green Templeton College, Oxford, a Fellow of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, and former Consultant Psychiatrist and Clinical Director at the Bethlem Royal & Maudsley Hospital, London. He has been a Research Fellow in neuroimaging at Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore and a Fellow of the Institute of Advanced Studies in Stellenbosch. He has published original articles and research papers in a wide range of publications on topics in literature, philosophy, medicine and psychiatry. He is the author of a number of books, but is best-known for The Master and his Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World (Yale 2009). In November 2021 his two-volume work The Matter with Things: Our Brains, Our Delusions, and the Unmaking of the World was published by Perspectiva Press.

     

     

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    The Matter With Things (Book) https://tinyurl.com/5d3cfns6

     

    The Master and His Emissary (Book) https://tinyurl.com/3p4favfe

    435. This Is One of the Biggest Medical Malpractice Scandals in History | Michael Shellenberger

    435. This Is One of the Biggest Medical Malpractice Scandals in History | Michael Shellenberger

    Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with bestselling author and journalist Michael Shellenberger to discuss the shocking revelations now being published in the WPATH Files.

     

    Michael Shellenberger is a climate activist, journalist, and bestselling author. He has covered climate for over 30 years, as well as AI, emergent technologies, the Twitter Files, and most recently, the WPATH files.

     

     

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    The WPATH Files Official Document https://environmentalprogress.org/big-news/wpath-files 

    434. The Darien Gap & Postmodernism | Bret Weinstein

    434. The Darien Gap & Postmodernism | Bret Weinstein

    Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with evolutionary biologist, author, and podcaster Dr. Bret Weinstein. They discuss the migration crisis, what values make up the “American Identity,” the potential for defining the transcendent, the origins of mutual reciprocity, and how the founding fathers codified these ideas into guidelines for the most functional nation in history.

     

    Dr. Weinstein is an evolutionary biologist who specializes in adaptive trade-offs. His current focus is on the interaction between genetic and cultural evolution. He has studied tent-making behavior in neotropical bats and worked for 14 years as a professor at The Evergreen State College. He has testified to the U.S. Congress, and been a visiting fellow at Princeton University. He hosts the DarkHorse Podcast and is a New York Times best-selling author. Bret has been a frequent guest on The Joe Rogan Experience and has done live events with Richard Dawkins, Jordan Peterson, Eric Weinstein, Peter Boghossian, Sam Harris, Douglas Murray and has been interviewed by Bill Maher, Russell Brand, Glenn Loury, Dax Shepard, Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Glenn Beck, Bari Weiss, Derrick Jensen, and Lex Fridman, among many others.

     

     

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    433. Streaming, Politics, & Philosophy | Destiny (Steven Bonnell II)

    433. Streaming, Politics, & Philosophy | Destiny (Steven Bonnell II)

    Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with Steven Bonnell II, also known as Destiny. They discuss the differences between the left and the right, force versus invitation, the feasibility and pitfalls of command economies, the dangers of ideology, and government response to worldwide crises.

     

    Destiny, also known as Steven Bonnell II, is a prominent political commentator and content creator known for his debate skills and provocative takes on various issues. With a passion for gaming, politics, and philosophy, Destiny engages in lively discussions that often challenge the status quo.

     

     

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    432. The End of the Tent Cities | Minister Jason Nixon

    432. The End of the Tent Cities | Minister Jason Nixon

    Jordan Peterson sits down with Alberta’s Minister of Seniors, Community, and Social Services, Jason Nixon. They discuss the dire problems created by unregulated homeless encampments, the onset of both indigenous and foreign gangs and cartels, and the two schools of thought on how to approach drug abuse—one that enables “safe” usage, where the other focuses on real addiction recovery.

     

    Jason Nixon is Alberta’s Minister of Seniors, Community and Social Services. As minister, he is responsible for his province’s policies on housing, homelessness, and government benefits for vulnerable people. He previously served as Leader of the Opposition, Minister of Environment and Parks and Minister of Finance and President of Treasury Board in the province of Alberta.

     

     

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